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		<title>Comment on Trolls and Internet Forums by Zack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve up-talked your cases to everyone who asks. &#160;I did it not 5 minutes ago for the umpteenth time. &#160;The only time I&#039;ve ever gotten close to knocking your case is when your glue failed after 2 years (and then I just PM&#039;d you). &#160;I repaired it with Elmer&#039;s Ultimate, and it was back to normal function ever since. &#160;You&#039;re a crazy SOB, but your cases are pretty awesome.
	
	I&#039;ve definitely been a dick, but we both know why. &#160;You have a bad habit of creating various unimportant (in the grand scheme) internet battles and ranting for pages and pages about it. &#160;Now and then you&#039;ll offer a bet on some aspect of the battle and then nitpick your way out of it.
I&#039;m sure we would get along just fine in person, but your internet presence is, sadly, all I have to gather an opinion of you. &#160;That&#039;s definitely not to your advantage lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve up-talked your cases to everyone who asks. &nbsp;I did it not 5 minutes ago for the umpteenth time. &nbsp;The only time I&#039;ve ever gotten close to knocking your case is when your glue failed after 2 years (and then I just PM&#039;d you). &nbsp;I repaired it with Elmer&#039;s Ultimate, and it was back to normal function ever since. &nbsp;You&#039;re a crazy SOB, but your cases are pretty awesome.</p>
<p>	I&#039;ve definitely been a dick, but we both know why. &nbsp;You have a bad habit of creating various unimportant (in the grand scheme) internet battles and ranting for pages and pages about it. &nbsp;Now and then you&#039;ll offer a bet on some aspect of the battle and then nitpick your way out of it.<br />
I&#039;m sure we would get along just fine in person, but your internet presence is, sadly, all I have to gather an opinion of you. &nbsp;That&#039;s definitely not to your advantage lol</p>
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		<title>Comment on Trolls and Internet Forums by John Barton</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Barton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2011 10:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re kind of a junior stalker.  Stalker-in-training or something.  Actually I really shouldn&#039;t have you on the shit list.  You&#039;re on it because you have been kind of a dick and have knocked the case you got from me even though you told me you liked it.  Also you could have at least mentioned that you got a custom leather one for like $200 after I apologized for the delay in getting you the factory-made nylon one you ordered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re kind of a junior stalker.  Stalker-in-training or something.  Actually I really shouldn&#8217;t have you on the shit list.  You&#8217;re on it because you have been kind of a dick and have knocked the case you got from me even though you told me you liked it.  Also you could have at least mentioned that you got a custom leather one for like $200 after I apologized for the delay in getting you the factory-made nylon one you ordered.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reap What You Sow by John Barton</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Barton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2011 10:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:-) Thanks Rich.  I hope it lasts you a lifetime.  I think that Steve just had something come up where he needs the money more than he needs a $3000 cue storage case. 

I can&#039;t imagine what the case will look like if we ever create one that I would charge $3000 for.  Ron Ross charges about $3000-$3500 for a fully tooled saddle that he builds himself.  I can&#039;t figure out for the life of me how these cases get to the price.  But then again I also can&#039;t understand a Louis Vuitton day planner costing $700 or a Hermes bag costing $15,000 with more than a year wait.  I honestly hope that everyone who ever buys one of my cases feels like they stole it from me.  We aren&#039;t the cheapest but I&#039;d be happy to put my cases in the ring against any other case in any price class.

Here is a link to your case if anyone wants to see what you depend on  http://www.jbcases.com/rich.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://jbcases.com/caseblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Thanks Rich.  I hope it lasts you a lifetime.  I think that Steve just had something come up where he needs the money more than he needs a $3000 cue storage case. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine what the case will look like if we ever create one that I would charge $3000 for.  Ron Ross charges about $3000-$3500 for a fully tooled saddle that he builds himself.  I can&#8217;t figure out for the life of me how these cases get to the price.  But then again I also can&#8217;t understand a Louis Vuitton day planner costing $700 or a Hermes bag costing $15,000 with more than a year wait.  I honestly hope that everyone who ever buys one of my cases feels like they stole it from me.  We aren&#8217;t the cheapest but I&#8217;d be happy to put my cases in the ring against any other case in any price class.</p>
<p>Here is a link to your case if anyone wants to see what you depend on  <a href="http://www.jbcases.com/rich.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.jbcases.com/rich.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Reap What You Sow by Rich Klein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, his intention to never sell the case lasted about 10 weeks.&#160; Maybe he decided he needed pockets?&#160; Well, I&#039;m not in the market for it - my JB case is still my lifetime case.&#160; Still looks as good as the day we met.&#160; I wish I could say the same for my ....... let&#039;s not go there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, his intention to never sell the case lasted about 10 weeks.&nbsp; Maybe he decided he needed pockets?&nbsp; Well, I&#039;m not in the market for it &#8211; my JB case is still my lifetime case.&nbsp; Still looks as good as the day we met.&nbsp; I wish I could say the same for my &#8230;&#8230;. let&#039;s not go there.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Trolls and Internet Forums by Zack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aww come on, I&#039;m not a stalk... wait... shit...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aww come on, I&#039;m not a stalk&#8230; wait&#8230; shit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Unique, One-of-a-Kind, Exclusive, what do these things mean to you? by Tommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 21:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John forget all those non-sense about 1-of-1 cases. the bottom line is did the collector enter any kind of contract with you or pay you premium for say $50,000.00 for that case ? if not, than you own the design from top to bottom. if you choose to reproduce another similiar case or the same design with different color leather is still your choice to do so.
the 2nd case looks different from the 1st original case, the elements of it might be SOMEWHAT&#160; the same but overall&#160;is 2 different case. I don&#039;t see these people turn their guns at Jack Justis regarding building the same elements of cases. I&#039;m not bashing Mr. Justis about his case in any way but if you search around for Justis case, alot of them have the same elements &amp; I don&#039;t see anyone complain about that, I&#160;always love to see stupidity&#160;of others making a big deal out of nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John forget all those non-sense about 1-of-1 cases. the bottom line is did the collector enter any kind of contract with you or pay you premium for say $50,000.00 for that case ? if not, than you own the design from top to bottom. if you choose to reproduce another similiar case or the same design with different color leather is still your choice to do so.<br />
the 2nd case looks different from the 1st original case, the elements of it might be SOMEWHAT&nbsp; the same but overall&nbsp;is 2 different case. I don&#039;t see these people turn their guns at Jack Justis regarding building the same elements of cases. I&#039;m not bashing Mr. Justis about his case in any way but if you search around for Justis case, alot of them have the same elements &amp; I don&#039;t see anyone complain about that, I&nbsp;always love to see stupidity&nbsp;of others making a big deal out of nothing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Trolls and Internet Forums by CocoboloCowboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>CocoboloCowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 01:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trolls and Internet Forums go hand in hand, and this has been happening as long as I can remember.&#160; You are 110% correct John as I too have been posting on internet forum for many years, and see the bull shit factor is still alive and well in year 2011, and getting deeper.
	
	I was not posting in 1996 on Rec.Sport.Billiards on the internet, as back them the internet too me was some new fangled way to communicate, and I labeled it a passing fad that would soon die off, and had no idea of how wrong I was about this new fad.
	
	A clever troll can remain only a handle or screen name if they watch what they say.&#160; Choosing each word they type carefully.
	
	The troll can hide their true identity, location, and all information as to who the troll really is.&#160; 
	
	They are IMHO what some forum owners will call good for hit count, daily visitor count, the kaching factor of coinage.&#160; As those forum owners love the trolls because people return to the forums many time daily to read the trools posting, and then the forum owner bump up their advertising prices because of the number of visitor, members, or hits to their forum.
	
	People over the years have tried totally moderated forums, where each post has to be reviewed&#160; by some moderator before the public, or members can read the posts.
	
	These forums for the most part are short lived, or have little traffic, as the opponents of moderated forums cry about censorship, and squashing free speech.
	
	John I do not think you are a a troll magnet, you just have many fans who are jealous of who you are, your success, and many times you would rather be truthful, verses tactful.&#160; Or as the warm fuzzy wuzzy people who love group hugs, say politically correct.
	
	Also many in the industry are jealous of what you have done for the Pool Cue Case industry, not working within a pre established pattern,&#160; or set of line, but instead you work out of the box.&#160; You have come up with new ideas, new designs, new features, new interiors, new clasps, or latches, and a lot of other newz.
	
	My suggest is be who you are, and not who others want you to be.&#160; Work as you have done for year shooting for the moon, and stars, and never settle to be complacent.
	
	Those who stalk, instigate, and investigate you.&#160; Post a reply to those people who I think are just jealous of you.&#160; The next time one of these A-HOLES attacks you on some internet forum.&#160; &#8220;I do not want you to think I am ignoring you, I want you to know I am ignoring you&#8221;.&#160; That way they know you read their bull shit, and you are ignoring them. 
	
	If you do it that many times &amp; long enough the trolls will go find someone else to pick on because they have no life except being a pain in the ass.
	
	Or as my 90 year old father says today to people who piss him off, as he live his life,&#160;&#160; Go FOOK Yourself!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trolls and Internet Forums go hand in hand, and this has been happening as long as I can remember.&nbsp; You are 110% correct John as I too have been posting on internet forum for many years, and see the bull shit factor is still alive and well in year 2011, and getting deeper.</p>
<p>	I was not posting in 1996 on Rec.Sport.Billiards on the internet, as back them the internet too me was some new fangled way to communicate, and I labeled it a passing fad that would soon die off, and had no idea of how wrong I was about this new fad.</p>
<p>	A clever troll can remain only a handle or screen name if they watch what they say.&nbsp; Choosing each word they type carefully.</p>
<p>	The troll can hide their true identity, location, and all information as to who the troll really is.&nbsp; </p>
<p>	They are IMHO what some forum owners will call good for hit count, daily visitor count, the kaching factor of coinage.&nbsp; As those forum owners love the trolls because people return to the forums many time daily to read the trools posting, and then the forum owner bump up their advertising prices because of the number of visitor, members, or hits to their forum.</p>
<p>	People over the years have tried totally moderated forums, where each post has to be reviewed&nbsp; by some moderator before the public, or members can read the posts.</p>
<p>	These forums for the most part are short lived, or have little traffic, as the opponents of moderated forums cry about censorship, and squashing free speech.</p>
<p>	John I do not think you are a a troll magnet, you just have many fans who are jealous of who you are, your success, and many times you would rather be truthful, verses tactful.&nbsp; Or as the warm fuzzy wuzzy people who love group hugs, say politically correct.</p>
<p>	Also many in the industry are jealous of what you have done for the Pool Cue Case industry, not working within a pre established pattern,&nbsp; or set of line, but instead you work out of the box.&nbsp; You have come up with new ideas, new designs, new features, new interiors, new clasps, or latches, and a lot of other newz.</p>
<p>	My suggest is be who you are, and not who others want you to be.&nbsp; Work as you have done for year shooting for the moon, and stars, and never settle to be complacent.</p>
<p>	Those who stalk, instigate, and investigate you.&nbsp; Post a reply to those people who I think are just jealous of you.&nbsp; The next time one of these A-HOLES attacks you on some internet forum.&nbsp; &ldquo;I do not want you to think I am ignoring you, I want you to know I am ignoring you&rdquo;.&nbsp; That way they know you read their bull shit, and you are ignoring them. </p>
<p>	If you do it that many times &amp; long enough the trolls will go find someone else to pick on because they have no life except being a pain in the ass.</p>
<p>	Or as my 90 year old father says today to people who piss him off, as he live his life,&nbsp;&nbsp; Go FOOK Yourself!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Unique, One-of-a-Kind, Exclusive, what do these things mean to you? by CocoboloCowboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>CocoboloCowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who owns the design to me is a simple question.&#160; The person who did the design, not the person who came up with the idea.&#160; 
	
	As let call him the designer the artist who executed the design on leather.&#160; If the &#8220;artist&#8221; was an employee than the design was the guys who paid the artist to work.&#160; If the artist was a freelance, or contract employee, than the design could be the artists property, or the person paying the &#8220;artist to do the work.&#160; That depend upon the contract or agreement between both parties.
	
	Having been a Freelance Photojournalist I always retained all ownership of images I created, unless I had a agreement prior to start the job that the images became property of the person who hired me.
	
	In the Case of this Pool Cue Case I would say the First Pool Cue Case could have been the inspiration for the Second Pool Cue Case, but Pool Cue Case Two is no copy, it only has some ELEMENTS of Pool Cue Case One.&#160; Some of the like or style of elements are totally different.
	
	I look at the galley of photos of both Pool Cue Case, and they are different, and the tooling is different IMHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who owns the design to me is a simple question.&nbsp; The person who did the design, not the person who came up with the idea.&nbsp; </p>
<p>	As let call him the designer the artist who executed the design on leather.&nbsp; If the &ldquo;artist&rdquo; was an employee than the design was the guys who paid the artist to work.&nbsp; If the artist was a freelance, or contract employee, than the design could be the artists property, or the person paying the &ldquo;artist to do the work.&nbsp; That depend upon the contract or agreement between both parties.</p>
<p>	Having been a Freelance Photojournalist I always retained all ownership of images I created, unless I had a agreement prior to start the job that the images became property of the person who hired me.</p>
<p>	In the Case of this Pool Cue Case I would say the First Pool Cue Case could have been the inspiration for the Second Pool Cue Case, but Pool Cue Case Two is no copy, it only has some ELEMENTS of Pool Cue Case One.&nbsp; Some of the like or style of elements are totally different.</p>
<p>	I look at the galley of photos of both Pool Cue Case, and they are different, and the tooling is different IMHO.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Unique, One-of-a-Kind, Exclusive, what do these things mean to you? by Rich Klein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 08:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems very obvious to me that a customer has no right to expect you to retire a particular style of case after you build one for him unless he received a commitment from you to that effect.&#160; If you were to make such a commitment, you would be justified in charging the present value of the profit (properly computed) that you could earn from making that style of case available to others.&#160; I&#039;m certain that no customer would be willing to pay that price.&#160; More likely, you would tell him that you would not make another case &lt;em&gt;exactly&lt;/em&gt; like his - something fairly easy to commit to for an elaborate design like this one - and charge him just for the time and materials put into his case.&#160; 
My reaction to his reaction was &quot;Geez, get real - there&#039;s another case similar to yours on the other side of the world, so what?&#160; It&#039;s not like you&#039;re Gwyneth Paltrow showing up for the Oscars and seeing Angelina Jolie in the same designer gown.&quot;&#160; I guess I don&#039;t understand the mindset of a collector.
As for the thread itself, John - you know lots of AZB&#039;ers love to jump all over you when given the slightest cause.&#160; I admire your restraint in dealing with them in that thread. &#160; &#160; &#160;&#160; &#160;&#160; 
	&#160;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems very obvious to me that a customer has no right to expect you to retire a particular style of case after you build one for him unless he received a commitment from you to that effect.&nbsp; If you were to make such a commitment, you would be justified in charging the present value of the profit (properly computed) that you could earn from making that style of case available to others.&nbsp; I&#039;m certain that no customer would be willing to pay that price.&nbsp; More likely, you would tell him that you would not make another case <em>exactly</em> like his &#8211; something fairly easy to commit to for an elaborate design like this one &#8211; and charge him just for the time and materials put into his case.&nbsp;<br />
My reaction to his reaction was &quot;Geez, get real &#8211; there&#039;s another case similar to yours on the other side of the world, so what?&nbsp; It&#039;s not like you&#039;re Gwyneth Paltrow showing up for the Oscars and seeing Angelina Jolie in the same designer gown.&quot;&nbsp; I guess I don&#039;t understand the mindset of a collector.<br />
As for the thread itself, John &#8211; you know lots of AZB&#039;ers love to jump all over you when given the slightest cause.&nbsp; I admire your restraint in dealing with them in that thread. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;<br />
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		<title>Comment on Some case questions. by John Barton</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Barton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 03:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@ David Plattner,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have never been asked to make a separate bag for the case except once for a cue ball which we did. &#160;A funny story though is that my very first case that I made had a man-purse from the German Walgreen&#039;s store glued to it with superglue. &#160;And it was actually very practical with all the extra storage compartments. &#160;&lt;br /&gt;
	&lt;br /&gt;
	I should really think about this and start making them. &#160;Thank you for the idea.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ David Plattner,</p>
<p>I have never been asked to make a separate bag for the case except once for a cue ball which we did. &nbsp;A funny story though is that my very first case that I made had a man-purse from the German Walgreen&#39;s store glued to it with superglue. &nbsp;And it was actually very practical with all the extra storage compartments. &nbsp;</p>
<p>	I should really think about this and start making them. &nbsp;Thank you for the idea.</p>
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